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Post  Rhaan on Mon Apr 28, 2008 8:30 pm

okay...while I would like to take credit for some of the attacks I'm using, technically they aren't mine though I am making them my own by giving them to my own characters and changing some properties; however, for the sake of those of you who simply need to "see" what the attacks do in order to picture them, I will now upload youtube videos with the original attacks that the Mystic Arts are coming from, mkay...now I will simply list everyone's MAs now before loading the vids as well as credit where they're coming from

Tati:
Tempest Blade-from Woodrow Kelvin, Tales of Destiny (JP, PS2)
Razing Phoenix-from Guy Cecil, Tales of the Abyss (US, PS2)
Final Embrace-from Rutee Katrea, Tales of Destiny
Rebirth Crusader-from Philia Felice, Tales of Destiny

Trice:
Calamity Fissure-from various characters in Disgaea: Hour of Darkness (US, PS2)
Bloody Curse-from Brahms, Valkyrie Profile (US, PS1/PS2)
Meteor Strike-from Kongol, Legend of Dragoon (US, PS1)
Titan Render-adapted from Presea Combatir, Tales of Symphonia (JP, PS2)

Umbra:
Dark Flare-from Lion Magnus, Tales of Destiny
Heaven's Squall-from Touya, Enchanted Arms (US, 360)
Senko-Jin-from Jun, Valkyrie Profile
Infernal Suffering-also from Lion Magnus

Jeauno:
Flame Dance-from Farah Orestead, Tales of Eternia (US, PS1/PSP)
Angel's Breath-from Natalia Luzu-Kimlasca Lanvaldear, Tales of the Abyss
Drunken Fist-from a Photon Art in PSU: Ambitions of Illuminus (US, PC/PS2/360)
Prism Ballet-from Legretta, Tales of the Abyss

Ash:
Nine Seals-from the Ninja class, Tales of the World: Radiant Mythology (US, PSP)
Trickster-from Rutee Katrea
Midare Fubuki-from Yukimaru, Disgaea 2 (US, PS2)
Demon's Rising-from Lion Magnus

Rhaan:
Akashic Torment-from Sync, Tales of the Abyss
Big Bang-from various caharacters in Tales of the Abyss
Divine Power-from Philia Felice
Shining Bind-from Kratos Aurion/Zelos Wilder, Tales of Symphonia

Ihm:
Justice Stream-from Lawfer, Valkyrie Profile
Dreaded Dragon-from Aelia, Valkyrie Profile
Blossom Storm-from Albert, Legend of Dragoon
Spiritual Lancer-from Odin, Valkyrie Profile

Verona:
Astral Rain-from Natalia Luzu-Kimlasca Lanvaldear
Garuda's Wrath-from Woodrow Kelvin
Star Children-from Miranda, Legend of Dragoon
Blinding Blaze-from Rufus, Valkyrie Profile

Lily:
Whirling Ripper-from various characters in Valkyrie Profile
Eternal Raid-from Jayle, Valkyrie Profile

Gandhi:
Icicle Disaster-from Grey, Valkyrie Profile
Lightning Waltz-from Jin Uzuki, Xenosaga (US, PS2)

Oby:
Desperate Horror-from Ull, Valkyrie Profile
Nibelung Valesti-from Silmeria, Valkyrie Profile

Khao:
Dragon's Wave-(renamed "Tidal Wave") from various characters in Valkyrie Profile
Maleficent Harm-from various characters in Valkyrie Profile

Nasla:
Whip Dance-from a Photon Art in PSU: AoI
Calamity Symphony-from Isabella Valentine, Soul Calibur (US, various systems)

Felix:
Brimstone Tempest-from Largo, Tales of the Abyss
Furious Rush-from a Photon Art in PSU: AoI

Rekki:
Grim Malice-from Heimdall, Valkyrie Profile
Rending Void-from Woodrow Kelvin

Shoyo:
Plasma Cage-from Larxene, Kingdom Hearts: Remixed Chain of Memories (JP, PS2)
Sublime Horn-from Leone, Valkyrie Profile

Kimimaru:
Innocent Shine-from Tear Grants, Tales of the Abyss
Pale Flare-from various characters in Valkyrie Profile

Vincien:
Lethailty-from Volke, Fire Emblem (US, NGC/Wii)
Demon's Dance-from Rose, Legend of Dragoon

Maddy:
Fimbulvetr-from Soren (and other mages), Fire Emblem
Phantom Destruction-from various characters in Valkyrie Profile

Delirium:
Harrowing Gale-from Sync, Tales of the Abyss
Lunar Roar-(renamed "Noble Roar") from Natalia Luzu-Kimlasca Lanvaldear

BK:
Final Fury and Dark Moon-(renamed "Dying Moon") from Anise Tatlin, Tales of the Abyss
Death Dimension-from Rose, Legend of Dragoon

ok! that's all of them, so here's a vid to start us off:
this has all of the mystic arts that come from Tales of the Abyss so that means it includes: Tati's Razing Phoenix, Jeauno's Prism Ballet (her Angel's Breath is a spell used by Natalia; not shown in this vid); my Akashic Torment and Big Bang; Verona's Astral Rain, Felix's Brimstone Tempest, Kimimaru's Innocent Shine, Del's Harrowing Gale and Lunar Roar and BK's Final Fury and Dark Moon

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Post  Rhaan on Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:09 pm

no time to rest! still many more to see I know, I know...
so, here's more vids

this one has all the ones coming from Valkyrie Profile: Lenneth (the PS1 game):



Trice's Bloody Curse does not come from this version of Brahm's attack, but instead the one from Valkyrie Profile: Silmeria (PS2):



The only other move coming from the Disgaea series is from D2 and is Yukimaru's Midare Fubuki which you can see here after a few seconds:



One attack from Tales of Destiny that's missing from the first clip is an extra skill Lion got in the director's cut of the remake:



okay...starting to get your fill, eh? no?! well, more's on the way xD
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Post  Rhaan on Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:20 pm

it seems I can't post all the videos directly here...strange; anyway here are the links for ya

for all mystic arts coming from Tales of Destiny:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CD8P7Jmx_jY

for a glimpse at Trice's Calamity Fissure (named "Calamity Drive") check in this vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lQQ4IP-hDko

"Heaven's Squall" is the only move coming from Enchanted Arms and is seen at the end of this vid:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv-zzA0LbSQ

sorry for any inconvenience
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Post  Rhaan on Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:41 pm

ok, I don't feel like stopping lol

Gandhi's Lightning Waltz is shown by Jin towards the end of this vid:



Vids of Legend of Dragoon attcks:





attacks coming from fire emblem are found here:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kh-6dRiSFoI

and the ones from Tales of Symphonia:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPJXuf_VZ9o
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Post  Rhaan on Mon Apr 28, 2008 9:45 pm

Shoyo gets Larxene's sleight seen twice here:



and Nasla's Calamity Symphony seen several times in this tribute to Ivy:

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Post  Rhaan on Mon Apr 28, 2008 10:59 pm

all of the following vids are now short clips of the single character's attack

Ihm's Spiritual Lancer from Odin:



Verona's Blinding Blaze from Rufus:



Lily's Whirling Ripper used by Celes:



Oby's Desperate Horror from Ull and Nibelung Valesti from Silmeria:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaFAZ-iw1C8

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Post  Delirium on Mon Apr 28, 2008 11:54 pm

Rhaan wrote:Delirium:
Harrowing Gale-from Sync, Tales of the Abyss
Lunar Roar-(renamed "Noble Roar") from Natalia Luzu-Kimlasca Lanvaldear

Unfortunately i've never heard of either of those games ;o;

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Post  Rhaan on Tue Apr 29, 2008 10:08 am

yeah Del, which is why the vids and links to clips are here for everyone's reference, on the chance that they may have never seen the games or know of the characters...if you watched the very first vid, yours are both in there as I noted
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Post  Obysuca on Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:18 pm

you do know the Nibelung Valesti from Valkyrie profile 2 is the same for Silmeria, Hrist, Lenneth, Alicia right? >.>
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Post  Rhaan on Wed Apr 30, 2008 9:46 pm

indeed, but I simply posted Silmeria's because she uses the same default weapon of your character Oby-a bow, that's why the specification, if it was going to given to ihm or a spear-user I'd show Hrist, and same for a sword-user, Lenneth's, lol...because just like Silmeria anyway, your character never uses a sword (or a materialized lance for that matter) at any other point in the game
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Post  Delirium on Thu May 01, 2008 6:35 pm

Rhaan wrote:yeah Del, which is why the vids and links to clips are here for everyone's reference, on the chance that they may have never seen the games or know of the characters...if you watched the very first vid, yours are both in there as I noted

Yeah I watched the vid but couldnt pick out my moves.

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Post  Obysuca on Thu May 01, 2008 6:36 pm

and yet no one remembers the archers in rpgs...or real life lol seriously, open a history book, you will see everyone who used swords, but where are the archers? >.> its like "Hey remember that other guy who helped us beat the last boss?" "What other guy?" "The Archer" "Who?" lol
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Post  Obysuca on Thu May 01, 2008 6:38 pm

speaking of Valkyrie profile 2, i finally beat it 2 days ago at 7:37 am Very Happy
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Post  Rhaan on Thu May 01, 2008 7:59 pm

famous Archers in history:
Ina, daughter of Tadakatsu Honda (real name, Komatsuhime)

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Princess_Ina

Komatsuhime (小松姫, Komatsuhime?) (1573-March 27, 1620) was a Japanese woman of the late Azuchi-Momoyama through early Edo periods. Born the daughter of Honda Tadakatsu, she was adopted by Tokugawa Ieyasu, before marrying Sanada Nobuyuki. She is described as having been very beautiful and highly intelligent.

Komatsuhime was known in her childhood as Inahime 稲姫 and also Onei 於小亥. After witnessing the martial prowess of the Sanada at the Battle of Ueda, she and her father were captivated by them. Tokugawa Ieyasu himself arranged for Komatsuhime to marry Sanada Nobuyuki, the Sanada lord.

In 1600, when Nobuyuki had decided to cast his lot with the Tokugawa, his father Masayuki (who had not done so) was en route to visit him at Ueda Castle, accompanied by his other son, the famed Sanada Yukimura. The two stopped at Numata Castle, where Komatsuhime was managing affairs. Masayuki relayed a message to her: "I want to see my grandchildren," and in response, the princess emerged, dressed in full battle attire, saying "Since we have parted ways in this conflict, though you are my father-in-law I cannot allow you into this castle." Masayuki and Yukimura withdrew to Shōkakuji Temple, and were surprised when they saw Komatsuhime (with her children) arrive soon after them, honoring Masayuki's wish.

After the Battle of Sekigahara, during Masayuki and Yukimura's exile, she took charge of sending them food and other daily necessities.

All in all, Komatsuhime was praised as a good wife and wise mother (ryōsai kenbo 良妻賢母). She died in Kōnosu, Musashi Province at age 47, while en route to the Kusatsu hot spring. Nobuyuki lamented her passing, saying that "the light of my house has been extinguished." Her grave can be found there. Today, in the museum at Ueda Castle, visitors can see items that she used, including her palanquin.

Komatsuhime in fiction

In the video game Samurai Warriors 2, Komatsuhime (known as Ina in the game) is a warrior who is deeply conflicted on her reason for fighting; for peace or enjoyment[citation needed]. She wields a long bladed bow, and can attack in melee combat and also at range. Additionally, in the game, she is charged with one of Hattori Hanzo's accomplishment during Ieyasu's journey in Iga: escorting Anayama Nobukimi, while Hanzo escorts the lord personally. Historically, Hanzō took both tasks at once and succeeded them both.

Ina also appears in the crossover game Warriors Orochi. In it, she befriends Sun Shang Xiang after Orochi blackmails the Tokugawa and the Wu Army into servitude. Although both of them are forced to fight for Orochi against their will, they end up joining the Resistance after Ina convinces Sun Shang Xiang to reunite with her older brother Sun Ce at Sekigahara.

Inahime as she appears in Koei's Samurai Warriors 2.


Yue Ying (real name is unknown), wife of famed strategist Zhuge Liang

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yue_Ying

Huang Yueying (黄月英) (? - 234) is the fictional name for the wife of the Shu strategist Zhuge Liang, and daughter of Huang Chengyan. Her true name is unknown, as no name for Zhuge Liang's wife survives in history.


In folklore
The lack of historical information about Zhuge Liang's wife did not prevent folk traditions from creating a name and a personality for her -- now so well known that popularly. She was known to be quite unattractive, but this was a rumor she spread so men would admire her for the abilities she carried and not her beauty. It is said that she was extraordinarily plain, but was very talented. The only man who could see past her ruse was Zhuge Liang. Zhuge Liang pursued her when he heard tales of her wisdom.

Zhuge Liang married her before he joined Liu Bei. She was never thought of as a great beauty, and her father even said she wasn't beautiful; therefore when Zhuge Liang asked for her hand in marriage everyone was surprised. He simply stated that he married her not for her beauty but for her wits.

She and Zhuge Liang had one son, Zhuge Zhan, and two grandsons, Zhuge Shang and Zhuge Jing. They adopted a son from Zhuge Liang's brother, Zhuge Jin of Wu. His name was Zhuge Qiao, and Zhuge Qiao had a son, Zhuge Pan, but eventually he was restored as the son of Jin.

She died after the Battle of Wuzhang Plains. Her last words were (to her son Zhuge Zhan) "Son, be filial and have piety".

Modern references

Huang Yueying is one of many playable characters in the Dynasty Warriors video game series by Koei, in which her name is simply Yue Ying. She is also very attractive, spreading false rumors across the land that she is dowdy and plain so that she may find a partner who respects her for her wisdom rather than her physical beauty.
Yue Ying also appears in Warriors Orochi, where she is held captive and eventually rescued by Zhao Yun in Hasedo. She and Saika Magoichi ally with the Shu Han and attempt to locate Zhuge Liang, who has gone missing.

Yue Ying as she appears in Koei's Dynasty Warriors 6.



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Post  Rhaan on Thu May 01, 2008 8:05 pm

oh and Del, the ones your character uses are "Noble Roar" (which is renamed Lunar Roar in my game) that is the second one used by Natalia (right after "Astral Rain") and "Harrowing Gale" which the character Sync uses after "Akashic Torment" ok? hope that helps you pick them out
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Post  Delirium on Fri May 02, 2008 3:06 am

Rhaan wrote:oh and Del, the ones your character uses are "Noble Roar" (which is renamed Lunar Roar in my game) that is the second one used by Natalia (right after "Astral Rain") and "Harrowing Gale" which the character Sync uses after "Akashic Torment" ok? hope that helps you pick them out

Okay so Harrowing Gale is okay but Lunar Roar is BAD ASS!!!! If you'd set Lunar Roar as the more "advanced" of the 2 techniques i'd appreciate it.

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Post  Rhaan on Fri May 02, 2008 12:42 pm

yup, that's the plan ^^
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Post  Rhaan on Fri May 02, 2008 1:06 pm

time for more vids!

Jeauno's Flame Dance used by Farah:


Rekki's Grim Malice as used by Heimdall:
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Post  Rhaan on Fri May 02, 2008 1:48 pm

Nasla's Whip Dance from the Photon Art "Vivi Danga:


Jeauno's Drunken Fist from the PA "Ick Hic":


Felix's Furious Rush taken from "Anga Redda":
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Post  Obysuca on Sat May 03, 2008 8:09 am

>.> touche, now find 2 male famous archers, and robin hood doesnt count lol


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Post  Rhaan on Mon May 12, 2008 6:40 am

male archers? no problem...
Huang Zhong (one of the Five Tiger Generals of Shu)

source: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huang_Zhong

Huang Zhong (died 220) was a leading military general of the Kingdom of Shu during the late Eastern Han Dynasty and Three Kingdoms era of China. He was most noted for his victory in the Battle of Mount Dingjun, in which his force routed that of Xiahou Yuan, who was slain during battle. For his merits, Huang Zhong was ranked among the five leading generals of Shu, later popularized as the Five Tiger Generals.

Huang Zhong had always been portrayed in popular literature and arts as an elderly general with youthful vigor and constitution. Even now, the spirit to strive for excellence despite old age is often attributed to him. However, little was documented about him in historical records and it is impossible to tell how old he was when he was named one of the Five Tiger Generals.

Born in Nanyang Commandery (present day Nanyang, Henan), Huang Zhong initially served a military post under Liu Biao, governor of Jing Province (荆州). After Liu Biao's death in 208, the powerful warlord Cao Cao conquered Jing Province and Huang Zhong continued his service under this new lord of the land, specifically in Changsha under the Administrator, Han Xuan.

Following Cao Cao's defeat at the Battle of Red Cliffs in the same year, Liu Bei was gradually taking over the various commanderies in southern Jing Province, including Changsha. Huang Zhong strongly recommended to his lord Han Xuan to surrender to Liu Bei, which they did, sparing many innocent civilian lives that would be lost if there were a battle. Huan Xuan and Huang Zhong then began their service under Liu Bei. He performed extremely well in Liu Bei's campaign to gain Yi Province (益州) from 212 to 214, his bravery in battles unmatched by any. After Yi Province was taken, Huang Zhong was promoted to General who Campaigns against Rebels (討虜將軍).

In 217, Liu Bei led a force upon Hanzhong, which was under the control of Cao Cao. His force met with resistance led by Xiahou Yuan at Yangping Pass (陽平關). The confrontation dragged on for more than a year until one night, Liu Bei set fire to the barbed fence around Xiahou Yuan's camp at the foot of Mount Dingjun. Alarmed by the attack, Xiahou Yuan sent Zhang He to defend the eastern corner of the camp, while he guarded the south. Liu Bei's main force pressed against Zhang He, outmatching the latter. Xiahou Yuan had to dispatch a fraction of his own troops to Zhang He's rescue.

Accompanied by thundering drums, the division led by Huang Zhong then descended upon Xiahou Yuan's dwindling force. The battle became a rout and Xiahou Yuan himself was killed in battle. The victory at Mount Dingjun was a major stepping stone to the later conquest of Hanzhong.

In 219, Liu Bei proclaimed himself King of Hanzhong, a symbolic measure comparing himself to the Emperor Gaozu of Han. He then promoted Huang Zhong to General of the Rear (後將軍), placing the latter on the same level as four other major generals: Guan Yu, Zhang Fei, Zhao Yun and Ma Chao. However, Huang Zhong died in the next year, to an unspecified cause. He was given the posthumous title of Marquis Gang, literally meaning the unyielding marquis.

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Huang Zhong is a playable character in the Koei video game series Dynasty Warriors. Huang Zhong is depicted as a wise and honourable elderly man whom younger officers, such as Zhao Yun, respect and look to for guidance. He is also always eager to prove to friend and foe alike that he is still a very capable officer and combatant. His weapon of choice is a large and elaborate saber he calls the "Oracle Sword", although his prowess with a bow features largely into his cinematic sequences and conversations. The bow Huang Zhong uses can be used by every other character as an item, but will mostly be attached to Huang Zhong himself. Beside his Musou Attack, Huang Zhong also has a special attack where he holds his bow horizontally, and fires multiple arrows in a single shot.

Huang Zhong as he appears in Koei's Dynasty Warriors 6.


well there's one, hard to think of others atm lol
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Post  Obysuca on Mon May 12, 2008 6:37 pm

find ones that arent from dynasty warriors based lol
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Post  Rhaan on Thu Jun 12, 2008 5:02 pm

a certain someone who appears in a later volume of the game has their attacks borrowed from Leon Magnus, (hint: that character's real counterpart requested this specific voice actor and ever so slightly resembles Leon in RL)

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Post  Obysuca on Fri Jun 13, 2008 4:06 am

and who would that char be? o.o
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Post  Tatiyana on Sat Jun 14, 2008 2:19 pm

I sat and watched the videos to the game you're making..
I have Razing Phoenix as a WS and gotta say it kinda stinks
It didn't do much damage.. I'm going to die alot in your game
aren't i Rhaan?
Yea and btw how come Trice gets all the cool WS's??
What's up with that?
Can you replace my Razing Phoenix with Celestial Fiery it
seemed to do more damage and looks cooler too ha

Anyway.. overall it's cool
Good work Arsh,
Tati.. Smile

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